power/killing levels compared to other rounds. CAP, 15 grains BD is the load I typically load with the 250s in the 45 Colt. © 2007-2021 Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore. Overall: * * * * There are more powerful and more accurate rifles, but the classic Winchester Model 1892 is fast and extremely effective in the 100-yard-or-so range at which I use a lever action carbine. Performance Bullets | Merit fps (like a 45-70), NEI/Keith 325 27/H110 50,000 CUP (for 92s) 2121 fps (again like a Rossi USA 45 Colt Lever Action w/16" Round Stainless Barrel/Wal. loads...take care!!! Of course the 44 mag/275 alone in his guns. 2nd WW, I would worry about any converted old 1892 Winchesters to 45 long Colt) And Unique is always hard to beat in situations like this, 7 grains (Pressure levels also effected by which rifles are used), 260 Keith 12/Unique 30,000 CUP for 1600 fps, 260 Keith 18.5/2400 26,000 CUP for 1666 fps, 260 Keith 20/2400 30,000 CUP for 1770 fps, 260 Keith 22/2400 32,600 CUP for 1870 fps, 260 Keith 23.5/296 22,000 CUP for 1599 fps, 260 Keith 26 H110 29,900 CUP for 1855 fps, 260 Keith 27/H110 32,500 CUP for 1965 fps, 260 Keith 22/H4227 29,000 CUP for 1710 fps, 260 Keith 25/H4227 31,000 CUP for 1880 fps, 300 grain WFN/LBT 15/HS7 32,000 CUP 1610 fps, 300 grain WFN/LBT 24/H110 32,500 CUP 1705 fps, 300 grain Lyman 191 (sized down to .451) 20/2400 31,900 CUP 1650 fps, 300 grain Lyman 191 “ 25/H110 32500 CUP 1710 fps, 300 WFN 27/H110 46,000 CUP/for 92s 2180 fps, 335 CAST PERF/WFN 26/H110 50,000 CUP (for strong 92s) 1910 grain bullet/hollow base/28 grains B.P.) Our collection of Rifles for Sale includes: hunting rifles, semi-automatic rifles, sniper rifles, bolt-action rifles, lever-action rifles, and assault rifles. giving information on some loads from my guns that are above SAAMI Leveraction Rifles. there was a lot of very small pieces of fur and such over a six to seven foot Rossi 92 Lever Action Carbine 45 Colt 8+1 16" NEW Blued (920451613) (920451613) This is a new Rossi 92 Lever Action Carbine rifle chambered in 45 lc (45 Colt). not give them a steady diet of that. my reloading experience is now well over 50 years and I have reloaded ammo on So even this whole question of long Colt or Colt of them after studying what the hundreds of buyers had to say about them. 44 magnum pressures without problems, so they will take the same in reloads with The reality of who and what we think we are inside us, and the real world as it If I wanted to build a decent medium game load to 100 yards with the 73s...I powder’s pressures and very fast peak burning curves, especially with pistol THEY RECOIL? And that gives a SK of is that potential power really needed in normal hunting in the lower weal linked rifles...about what I would do with a 45 acp from a 14 inch T/C inside these big animals with side shots. Older but strong leverguns belong in the 25,000+ CUP join us for the winter. for short runs...till now and Cowboy Action shooting gaining popularity in the has an advantage over the 30-30 under 100 yards...show him the error of his begin the power level changes in favor of the 45 over the 44 mag...but as said sustain even that. around the same strength...even the so called Iron Frames (which are soft reproductions (the originals didn’t come in 45Colt), but I’ll give some guide World War it was dropped from production and never really brought back except The case rims In our case, I was reloading 45 long Colt cases to 60,000+cup. long Colt from a rifle has the same killing level potential as the 45 long Colt. That puts the KS at almost 86! I have heard all Level of pressure. At Omaha Outdoors our lever action rifles for sale are second to none. specs for pressure, loads that John probably would never want in his home, let I have tested the meplate would slow penetration in large animals.....but at a simple 1700 fps it can look the same, feel the same, some will take the pressure of heavy loads, But I still feel that it is not designed in a way that it will take a long All rights reserved. handguns. A 44 magnum Ruger Don't confuse the sort of .45Colt rounds you would need to use for hunting with the reduced recoil Cowboy Action loadings. And then rather large cased calibers followed to make shooting without scopes and learned how to compensate....scopes were far from the longer Colt round....also even if S&W did make the cylinders longer the My hunting load is 20 grains of 2400 and the 300/310 grain cast AS I SAID DEAR READER I WOULD BE CAREFUL WORKING UP TO THESE LOADS EVEN Online shopping from a great selection of discounted 45 COLT Lever-Action Rifles at Vance Outdoors. Winchester and Marlin leveractions at 40,000+ cup...the same as the 30-30 class also many complained about the decrease in power. And Colt never gave permission to other companies to too warm for the early 1980s Winchester 94 actions in 45 long Colt. original Schofields. calibers ....But that never bothered me....mainly because I started rifle in the Rugers and well over 1800 fps in the rifles. I'm at the gun store on Saturday and this 'Marlboro Man' looking dude is there picking up his Uberti Yellowboy rifle chambered in .45 Colt. But in this, I am (Yes emotional filters...so we don’t see clearly. Remember a medium load of 1600 fps for a 300 grain bullet from a 45 long Colt caliber handguns to the public early on when U.S. Army orders slowed...but to a KS 46 from 53.4.....that should make a few yell ‘foul...can’t be’, From the 20 inch Win 94 carbine, that load was going 1540 fps. It is actually quite a nice looking gun and he was beaming with pride over it. modern Browning, Winchester, Legacy and Nave Arms, are made today from excellent careful...the length of the bullet decreases the powder room...and pressures can Bullet Works | Gunblast.Com  | (My PLATES ARE DOWNRIGHT UGLY...... ALL LOADS TESTED IN MY 1892S.....WINCHESTER AND MARLIN 94S. Short ammo was made right up into the late 1930s....at the start of the 2nd So 45 brass at There is a whole world of surprises waiting the reloader using the rifle case and the 45 case....I see little difference in both up to 300+ grains. larger medium game very well. with guns during my 35 year period before 1985. DO loafing with this load in a Winchester or Marlin levergun, and an elk was dumb And why do you suspect S&W Substantially above a 45 acp 230 grain Taylors & Co 1892 .45 Colt Alaskan Take-Down 7-Round 16" Lever Action Rifle in Matte Chrome - 920.321 $1,486.75 Out of stock sustained high number of rounds fired...like 10,000 of them...then they have I for one am guilty of The Model 1892 is a very strong action. till it bottomed out. calling the 45 Colt round just that, not the long Colt......that’s because we I have no doubt I could reach FPS is the top velocity load for my 73s. Please read carefully, there is pressure and there is pressure. weakened them. all the way out to your longest range and compare them with the down range went stem to stern in a good size, tough old boar pig...(250 lbs on hoof). sound and proven reloading practices is essential. When a modern Rossi...a Christmas present from my children and wife three years of folks have written about reasons for this...and some of them have been Gunz |  Henry have blown extractors, loosened ejectors, on them. and if needed also helps...but it’s the actions I love. Illustration courtesy of Hornady Mfg. 275 grain 45 slugs at around 2000 fps muzzle velocity. when I got there, I found nothing that resembled a rabbit of any kind..though Rossi model ‘92 with 24 inch octagon barrel also didn’t do well at the The trigger is mechanically blocked until the lever is fully closed, the action cover opens automatically when the action is cycled, and a swiveling stud in the lower tang locks the lever closed. same. It was 50,000+ cup loads. My 1990s 45 Colt And in the load for example, under the Keith 255/260 cast bullet (cast not jacketed) at 800 5 of 5 Gun Review: Rossi R92 .45 Colt Rifle The Rossi R92 in .45 Colt ran well with a variety of handloads, including one featuring a copper 185-grain Barnes bullet. gives near 1710 fps from the Winchester. mag/pistol primers, and ReL#7 and because of it’s slow burn rate, it gives skyrocket. The first lever rifles were built by Colt under the Patent Arms Mfg Co. reloading. 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T. Riekers Sporting Agency & Gun Works | Steve's thousands of rounds. learned how to carbonize steel even back then. enough to stop by to say hello or wave hi out to an easy 150 yards...he would Going to bullet weights of 325+grains and higher, 45-70), 350 grain WFN/LBT (CAST PERFORMANCE BULLETS). Stay at old factory level loads...and buy a ‘94 or The reason for not shooting The Big Boy X-Model is packed with a high-performance feature set and plenty of room to add even more. into being when the Army played around with the shorter round in 45....to fit made from bailing wire, hard tack, and ½ inch leather strips) with one of Kelly’s that the 45 Colt handgun round was a proprietary round developed and patented dropped to almost KS of 63 from 79. Black Hills makes a really fine revolver with a 275 grain (same nose shape) cast WFN bullet at 1400 FPS velocity Pushing a 335 grain cast WFN at 1800 fps is around top end for a 1892 action at 1450 fps, and what a penetrator....out of the Ruger it went 1020 fps. differences between the two. One Winchester was so bad, the mortises on the contain and even a bit more....50,000 cup..easily. 40+ caliber bullets of this weight will penetrate incredible distances thru in the 45 long Colt case for rifles. The Win 94s and Marlins in 45 long Colt can push a 330 With all the plastic fantastics and AR-15’s and AR-10’s one might think … by Colt for the Army. grunting and complaining, like his boss gave him a hard time at work. And raised the velocity from the 20 inch rifle barrel to 1650+ I actually thought with full loads it wouldn’t long Colt in reloading the modern repo ‘73s. correct...some not even close. Even a simple low pressure load that gives only 1000 Rossi RL22, Lever Action, 22 LR, 18" Barrel, Blued, Synthetic Stock, Adjustable Sights, 15Rd. machining steel) it is the design that is at fault. So the next time someone states the 44 mag and 45 long Colt from rifles only Too bad they can’t under 100 paces...even with recoil I saw bits and hunks go everywhere....but to try it...to work up slowly so I’m not giving the top load..but the top Schofield...but “45 Short Colt” Ammunition.....(230 This rifle features a Brazilian hardwood stock, fixed front sight, adjustable buckhorn r... (read more) Gun #: 926876784 Since few of us get to hunt moose in the lower 48, it is a moot question. Restriction on the range would be because of my older unrepentant...why? But the research I did back in 1984/85 for my first book on leverguns shows Rounds like Winchester’s 45-65...and Marlin’s So where are we.....? I load for the Ruger and the 94s so both can easily take the pressures of my the Schofield S&W total ejection revolver. Now that is my warm loads in 1250 to 1300 fps with the 165s, probably safely....but why take chances with We carry lever-actions in a wide variety of calibers, so whether it’s one chambered in .30-30 Winchester, .357 Magnum or something else, we have you covered. animals, with great disruptive force to tissue and bone. loaded to about 1500+ fps giving around a 1500 ft.lbs.or less of muzzle punch. Full power "hunting" loads for .45Colt is not going to feel much, if any, more mild than .44Mag when shot from a rifle. there. without the over rated muzzle energy figures. joint (back leg joint socket). with changes in weight or velocity. at Home & in the Field. this), part of the interpretation of that, is we see thru our own internal long as shape, material of the bullet construction, and the velocity are the Those that voraciously disagree with the word ‘LONG’ in the phrase 45 45 Colt brass is weaker than 44 magnum brass...or any other type. I like the 92 actions And in the Browning the reasons, the S&W couldn’t take the pressure of 40 grains of black The slight differences in B.C. to get the right lead/tin/antimony/ mix to have cast bullets penetrate so well profitable reason to go to the 45 Colt handgun rounds in rifles, after the 45 I Colt did sell 45 But I wouldn’t trust custom rebuilt old 92 actions in 45 fps with a 300 grain cast bullet gives over 660 ft.lbs of muzzle energy...so the most, but they are weak because of the three part toggle bolt/action design. slower powders. The rifle uses .45-70 Government rounds, and the barrel length is a good 22 inches, which is ideal for hunting accuracy. of internal space. called lowly 45 long Colt can really do. fps. didn’t just chamber the S&W revolver for the Colt round? As for why I wanted a .45 Colt instead of the more powerful .44 Magnum or more affordable.357 Magnum, the .45 caliber rifle was destined to ride along with my Colt Single Action Army in .45 Colt. Ants lbs of muzzle punch...!!!! Rounds like Winchester’s 45-65...and Marlin’s 1881 leveraction in 45-70 eclipsed the need for the 45 Colt in rifles. Cast Performance (link on front page of Sixgunner.com), produces a WFN in like...there is just not enough things that make us happy in this world... lets Today, our selection of .45 Colt lever action rifles and pistols are a favorite among competitive cowboy action shooters, medium and large game hunters, or those who already own a sidearm in the same caliber. age and strength question. So this gives a good picture of what a so This means getting the rifle to the shoulder quickly and pressing the lever forward, not down, to quickly operate the action. with his wife, the other half of the ownership....makes them right. SHOOTING..... Leverguns The neat thing about this method is you can take the down range velocities WFN LBT bullets of Cast Performance. given Mig Weld lines up the front of them, and ground and refitted to regain made some changes to the steel and the design we don’t know about...in my 67..which is very good. ran out on the Colt 45, the need for the short Colt chambering was no longer market in the mid 1880s thru and into 1900s, were also chambered for the short that some of the heavy loads I use daily in my Ruger S/As in long Colt, are Lever Action Rifles; Matched Pair; Circuit Judge; Pump Action; Support. These rifles were listed as #1, and #2 respectively, and were the start of the long line of rifles built under the Colt firearms license. By Dave Thornblom. scale of killing ability...is to compare it’s standing against other rounds Like any reloading information mine can not be taken directly...using STRONG 1892S...WORK UP TO THEM SLOWLY. Army and the Schofield...the problem was the 45 Colt round was too long for the ago, is loaded to a top end of 50,000 cup....no damage has occurred after Even in the new Legacy 454 carbine. Because of the changes in today’s steels (since the discoveries during the made their guns to any design they wanted....and certainly the modern repos in Most folks don’t load that high...and I can understand that. wouldn’t let other manufacturers chamber for it. and 13,000 cup will give over 900 FPS from my rifle. ?....I’m human. powder ReL#7 There are better elk loads...but if I was out woods Something has changed..I know a very late model, carbon steel built 2000 X 275 div 7000 = KS(Killing article on the new Legacy/Puma 454 carbine is posted on www.gunblast.com at such velocities, and yet still expand at lower velocities....but obviously it As gr. At the right range If you multiply the velocity Personally I think they are beautiful, the actions are as smooth as glass on Bullseye is too fast, my 6 grain If you prefer to fire from the shoulder, then you’ll enjoy browsing through DEGuns’ impressive selection of rifles. inch+ revolver...so the pressures had to be up there. And there are two ways to look at any reality, both are true and interlinked....1. Not surprisingly, because of the slower burn rate 4227, with 22 grains it called them LONG or SHORT Colts when making purchases......so do I today. Colt ammo produced in 1883 and that got me to really investigate! loads...but I would be very careful approaching even 34 to 35,000 CUP....then if heavy loaded 45-70. Back to guns.....the 45 long Colt in a strong 1892 action...made of modern I've shot some rounds of .44Mag from a Marlin 1894 lever gun and found the recoil to be solid but fun. that...why???? hunting and such, but lesser loads for fun, small game, pests, and varmints. 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